Hearing Jirai's remarks, Shui Mu also understood that a strong person with a strong self-awareness has such a strong desire to maintain his will.

"It seems that mankind is going to the end on the road of rebellion."

Although it has long been understood that humans are not welcomed by this world, and the will of human beings and the ninja world are accidentally separated, but after possessing the power to control chakra, humans are not willing to be compared with the stubborn stones on the roadside, and the collective unconsciously controls The desire of one's own will gradually gained the upper hand.

"Then, it is actually in the interests of this world to recover Chakra. What Kaguya Otsutsuki wants to do is actually consistent with the will of the world, but the practice of Kaguya Tsutsutsuki of the People's Congress is even more unpopular than the human community. 』

"What we are going to do in the future is to compete for the control of Chakra?"

"Fundamentally, it's true, get more chakras, and control them, that's what we're going to do, that's where the immortal mode comes from, leveraging the natural energy with your own chakra, that's what we've done so far , in addition to the tailed beast Chakra, the most effective means, unfortunately..."

"The immortal mode gives us powerful power, but it also brings corresponding dangers. The invasion of natural energy is constant, and the danger of integrating into nature also comes from this. We use natural energy, but natural energy Isn't it subtly changing us?"

"Fighting an unidentified enemy is really a troublesome job, Lord Jiraiya, have we achieved any decent results so far?"

"Results? Haven't you seen it before?"

"Have you seen it?" Shuimu was stunned for a moment, and then suddenly realized, "So that's the case, Ren Zhuli? A leaf can't see Mount Tai, and the guy in front of him is always ignored unconsciously."

Such a huge source of chakra is in the hands of humans, and there are nine immortal existences. As long as humans still exist, the tailed beasts can be infinitely resurrected, and the power of human beings is the reliance of human beings.

Mizuki couldn't help but think of the purpose of dividing the ten tails of the Six Paths Immortals, which was originally born as the patron saint of human beings, but the greed and inferiority of human beings directly adopted more rude means to achieve this purpose, and unscrupulously took them applied to human civil war.

"You understand? It's easy to talk to a smart person like you. If Naruto is a little boy, I don't know how much work it will take him to figure it out."

"You flatter me."

Jiraiya’s reminder about the human pillar force also made Shuimu understand why the physique of the whirlpool family that is suitable for the human pillar force is so valued, not only because of its terrifying vitality and the value of the superb sealing technique, but also more deep meaning. Tsunade didn't even care about Mizuki's many faults, just because he saved a little girl from the blood of the Whirlpool family.

"Today's conversation with Jiraiya-sama has been very rewarding, and I am very grateful."

Zilai also waved his hand and said: "You're welcome, you must know that the battle on the surface of human beings, at least among the five great ninja villages, maintains a tacit balance, but hidden in the dark, fighting with unknown enemies, in fact, there are never enough people. , and all of them are arrogant and arrogant, and they are not in harmony with each other. So it is quite lucky to have a good helper."

"So, please give me more advice in the future."

"Well, do you have any questions?"

"There is one last question. Regarding the sacred place of psychic beasts, such as Miaomu Mountain, what is their position?"

"Are they?" Zilai also hesitated, then said, "They can be trusted, but they can't be relied on."

Jiraiya also seems reluctant to say too much, "Since you asked this, you must have found something, but I can tell you responsibly, at least for now, they are not malicious. These inhumans Intelligent species help humans quite a lot, such as the immortal mode. And some of their methods in the psychic contract can be regarded as payment to them. Even some secret hands and feet, as long as the problem is not very big, We can also turn a blind eye."

"That's it." Although he didn't say anything in detail, his attitude towards them was clear. "That is to say, now we can still treat them as allies."

"Yes, they need us too."

"I understand the truth. When the sky falls, the taller must first lift it."

"Eh?" Jiraiya didn't know why at first, but then he understood, "This description is indeed very appropriate, the sky is about to fall, and naturally the highest one must come to the top, and we humans are the highest one, more than all other races combined. High. They won't let us fall first."

This intricate relationship is actually very apt to describe it in a sentence from a previous life. "Qin lost its deer and the world chased it away". The invasion of the divine tree caused the Ninja world to lose its ability to fully control it, and Chakra is its manifestation. After the intelligent creatures that were completely irresistible in the past had the ability to control chakra, they began to have additional needs after mastering the power. The world itself, after losing some control of Chakra, it is not so easy to take it back. The human beings who bear the brunt of the brute force are the representatives of unruly and unruly, and they are also the most severely restricted, and the difficulty of cultivating the immortal mode is unexpectedly high. And other intelligent races, out of the need of common interests, temporarily stand on the side of mankind. Although not very reliable, at least until the fall of mankind, or victory, they are close comrades-in-arms.

"Then, what Lord Jiraiya is concerned about now must be the matter of the "Xiao" organization."

"Um". Jiraiya nodded solemnly and said, "The organization that directly targets the tailed beast and the human pillar has stood on the opposite side of us from the very beginning."

"Understood." In the confrontation with the "Xiao" organization, as long as there is no problem with Mizuki's position, the Hokage family of Konoha Village represented by Tsunade and Jiraiya will be their strong backing. This is no longer just a war between humans. The "Xiao" organization that targets the Nine Tailed Beasts and Human Zhuli is the common enemy of all mankind.

The conversation between Mizuki and Jiraiya went on for a long time. In the past, due to the difference in identity and cognition, the two had nothing in common at all, but this time they talked quite speculatively about natural energy, immortal mode and immortality, etc. .

"Then, what should we do? Lord Jiraiya, both physically and mentally, refuse to integrate into nature, and the method of sensing natural energy can only be borrowed from the tailed beast Chakra?"