Academician Ni is very thin, his appearance is not good, but he is extraordinarily energetic. He wore a shirt, ordinary, not a famous brand, and impossible to patch, just like an ordinary university teacher anyway.

Ma Xiaoyun quickly got up and shook hands: "Hello, Academician Ni, I am Ma Xiaoyun who contacted you on the phone. I am currently the general manager of the Information Department of the EDI Center under the Ministry of Foreign Trade and Economic Cooperation. This is Song Weiyang, the chairman of Xifeng Company. Boss Song is right. You have been admired for a long time, so I want to come and see you."

"I don't dare to see him," Academician Ni smiled and shook hands. "Boss Song is one of the leading figures in the domestic beverage industry. He played Coca-Cola and Pepsi repeatedly. I have known it from the newspapers."

Song Weiyang said: "Academician Ni can call me Xiao Song. In the beverage industry, Xifeng will continue to work hard. At present, it is only surpassing Pepsi in the domestic market. Our next goal is to beat Coca-Cola!"

"Young people are ambitious!" Academician Ni praised and said to Ma Xiaoyun, "Little Ma, I also know that I helped establish People's Daily Online last year, and I am also a loyal netizen of People's Daily Online."

"I'm very honored." Ma Xiaoyun said.

Song Weiyang called the waiter over and asked Academician Ni to order, and then ordered two more meat dishes.

Before the dishes were on the table, Academician Ni asked Ma Xiaoyun: "You just mentioned the EDI Center, what kind of organization is this? Is it also related to the Internet?"

Ma Xiaoyun explained: "EDI is a way of using computers for business processing. It can use information from trade, transportation, insurance, banking, customs and other industries to form structured transaction processing data using an internationally recognized standard model. Data exchange and processing via the Internet. This project was initiated by the United Nations and is being promoted by governments of all countries. In the future, international transactions can be carried out online, and even customs tariffs can be settled online. In China, I am solely responsible for the technical aspects. ."

"This project is very good," Academician Ni praised, "Technology can change the way of life of human beings, as well as the way of international trade. If the project is successful, you will be the hero of the country, Xiao Ma."

Ma Xiaoyun said modestly: "I don't dare to be a hero. I'm just in charge of technology. It depends on the advancement of leaders at all levels."

Academician Ni and Ma Xiaoyun talked about the Internet for several minutes, and naturally they talked about computers. He said: "Chinese people must have their own computer operating system, or they will be stuck on their necks, and they will be sighed for everything in the future."

"It's true." Ma Xiaoyun echoed.

Song Weiyang suddenly said: "Academician Ni, I have started a technology company and am preparing to manufacture and sell computers."

"Scramble business with Lenovo?" Academician Ni asked with a smile.

"I have this idea," Song Weiyang said. "After all, Lenovo is China's largest computer manufacturer, and competition is inevitable. But my goal is not to defeat Lenovo, but to make a real domestic computer, at least a large part of the hardware must be localized. "

"The localization of computers requires localization of chips!" Academician Ni said.

"It's difficult." Song Weiyang said.

"It is difficult," said Academician Ni, "but we must take the first step."

Song Weiyang shook his head and said: "I am not saying that making chips is difficult, but that even if the chips are made, subsequent commercialization is difficult. A chip that cannot be commercialized is just a waste chip, which is worthless at all."

Academician Ni put a smile away and asked: "Do you also support the ‘Trade, Industry and Technology’ set?"

Song Weiyang said: “'Trade, Industry and Technology' is understandable, and there is no essential difference from'Technology, Industry and Trade.' 'Existence. Huawei does not distinguish between'Technology, Industry and Trade' and'Trade, Industry and Technology'. They started by acting as agents, and they did not lose technology while developing the market. They also temporarily lost technology research and development when profitability was difficult. Just to survive. What route can you define for Huawei?"

Academician Ni asked: "Does Huawei also make computers? I have never heard of this company."

Song Weiyang sweats violently, can only blame Huawei for being too low-key!

Not only Academician Ni, many people have never heard of Huawei. When Li Yuzhuo, vice president of Stone, moved to another job last year, President Duan Yongji asked: "Where are you going?" Li Yuzhuo said, "Huawei." "

Song Weiyang explained: “Huawei is a telecommunications equipment manufacturer. Last year’s turnover was several billion yuan. Just two months ago, the boss of Huawei took the initiative to reduce his shareholding to 1%. Employees’ equity has increased to 70%. At the same time, Mr. Ren has laid down rules in the company’s internal documents that more than 10% of Huawei’s annual profit must be used to invest in technology research and development."

"This company has a future!" Academician Ni exclaimed, "If I have the opportunity, I will definitely talk to the President Ren."

Song Weiyang said: "Huawei uses trade to fund technology and uses technology to accumulate strength for trade. Can you say it is'Technology, Industry and Trade' or'Trade, Industry and Technology'? It's unclear! It is hard to tell the difference. Going online has changed from a divergence of ideas to a factional struggle."

Academician Ni was silent, and it took a long time to say: "It's true. But someone has done too much and must put the brakes on him."

"Let's talk about the chip," Song Weiyang did a lot of homework in advance and asked, "If China develops chips independently, can you bypass the technology patent? The X86 system patent has been almost registered by Intel."

Academician Ni said: "So I want to bypass the X86 system and build embedded chips."

Song Weiyang said: "Well, let’s say that China can make embedded chips, but who can you sell them to? Buyers must develop prototypes based on your chips. Is there such a company in China? No! So make it. No one bought it, because it was useless and could only be thrown into the trash."

This is something that Academician Ni has never considered. He only cares about technology, regardless of business and market.

Academician Ni froze for a long time, gritted his teeth and said: "Then I will make a chip first, and then make a public board around this chip! Now there will always be companies willing to cooperate?"

Song Weiyang smiled and said: "Okay, I believe Academician Ni can make both chips and public boards, but who wants to buy it? Intel has Microsoft systems as a supporting system, so in order to buy your chips and public boards, you let those companies own Develop a computer system? Even if you develop a computer system yourself, what about the software, there is no supporting software! Do you still have to do the software yourself, or let someone else do the supporting software for nothing?"

Academician Ni was dumbfounded.

Song Weiyang said: "This is an ecosystem, not just chips and public boards. If any businessman finds Academician Ni and vowed to make chips, public boards, and operating systems, then this person must be unpredictable. The bastard! He has only one motive, which is to deceive the country's policy funding!"

In history, there has been such a bastard.

This person graduated from Harbin Institute of Technology and took the professor of Harbin Institute of Technology to start a company together to do outsourcing business for Motorola. Later, the company was merged into Hitachi Group as a whole. The Hitachi Group project failed. This person had already saved a R&D team in his hands and was eager to find new business, so he focused on Academician Ni.

When Academician Ni saw the other party's R&D team, he was immediately mad. Don't have the slightest share, and help run the policy, run the funds, and run a national 863 project, just to build China's own chips.

Academician Ni didn't know that when he was working on the project, this person was busy fighting for power-kicking out the veterans of the two companies and letting his brother and sister-in-law each hold 35% of the shares. Academician Ni rushed around all day to appeal. The R&D personnel worked hard day and night, and the government provided a large amount of policy funds. However, this person was busy bypassing the state’s listing and secretly went to the Cayman Islands to register a new company. The company’s legal person (Harbin Institute of Technology) The professor suddenly found out that his office was gone one day at work.

The funniest thing is that many patriotic companies have voluntarily left the Intel camp and want to use Chinese independent chips. As a result, when he came to talk about cooperation, he was turned away by this person. They only wanted government orders and looked down upon the small-scale jokes of these companies.

The main persons in charge of the chip project are Academician Ni and Liu Qiang. This person also provokes discord, saying that Liu Qiang is his niece and son-in-law, causing Academician Ni to deliberately alienate Liu Qiang for a long time. When Liu Qiang heard about this, he looked dazed, he didn't have such a relative at all!

This person took the state's policy funds and refused to invest in the follow-up research and development of the chip. The country's 863 project said that it would be withdrawn. This person did not take the government into consideration at all. He made a farce known all over the country, and he couldn't understand it.

For a long time, this guy's nationality is actually Canadian...

Academician Ni didn't get a cent from it, and worked hard for several years, but finally got into a show, because he ran out of the whole project.

"If you say that, China can't develop its own chips?" Academician Ni asked very depressed.

"It's difficult, it needs to be done step by step." Song Weiyang said.

Academician Ni said: "Tell me, what do you think."

Song Weiyang said: "The company I opened ~lightnovelpub.net~ is doing PHS, which is a kind of mobile phone that uses a solid network. I want to use the money I make as a mobile phone to feed the computer R&D team. We don't rely on it. The country, do it yourself. At the beginning, do not get involved in chips, first do other R&D, assemble and sell branded computers, and slowly accumulate strength. You can also build public boards around Intel’s chips and develop your own design motherboards, and finally Let’s make chips! This time is tentatively set to ten years."

"It takes ten years to make chips, not long." Academician Ni said.

Song Weiyang said: "My factory is located in Shenghai, but I want to set up a research and development center in Zhongguancun. Please Academician Ni you as the chief engineer."

Academician Ni did not immediately refuse: "I will think about it again."

Song Weiyang said: "In the R&D center here in Zhongguancun, I invested 10 million yuan in advance, and 10% of the company's annual profit will also be used for R&D."

"Well," Academician Ni was obviously moved. He said, "Boss Song, when Lenovo's matter is resolved, I will give you an answer."

"No problem, I'm waiting for good news." Song Weiyang smiled.