However, Qin Guan did not refute. He knew that he didn't need to refute, and naturally someone would refute him.

It is supported by some comrades of the Third Ministry of Machines. Qin Guan is understandable. However, as a user, the Navy and Air Force absolutely dislike it.

Sure enough, when the host turned his attention to the Air Force, General Lin spoke there without hesitation: "No, since we already have the F-11 fighter now, we will definitely not be equipped with a similar function. Fighters of the same generation are now available. For us, this is a repetitive waste."

General Lin's prestige in the Air Force is very high. If he objected, it would almost represent the meaning of the entire Air Force. This answer immediately made President Gu stunned: "Why?"

"We have spent a lot of effort to finally transform our aviation system from the bear country system to the Eagle country system, and to the Western system standards. Now, let us go back again?" General Lin Said: "Don’t say anything else, as far as life span is concerned, Xiong Guoren’s engine can fly for three hundred hours. What about our current system? The first overhaul is only 1,000 hours. The cost of our procurement How about low? Wait until we equip the troops for 300 hours, and then change the engine. During the whole life, we will have to change the engine several times and add this fund. If you count it, are we still worthwhile?"

General Lin hit the nail on the head and immediately pointed out the key issue, the system standard.

The systems of the East and the West are different. The West pays attention to long life and the calculation of the whole life. Therefore, they increase the life as high as possible, so that it can be cheaper. In peacetime, it is the most cost-effective, and the bear country, They don’t care about lifespan. According to their experience, during a war, an airplane will be shot down if it cannot fly for 300 hours. It is useless to build such a strong and durable airplane. A few hundred hours will be enough.

This is a different way of thinking. If there is a war, the Xiong country can quickly manufacture military equipment in large quantities and rely on quantitative advantages to win. This theory is fine, but now, in peacetime, this is quite costly.

It took a lot of effort for one's own side to switch from the Eastern standard to the Western standard, specifically, through the combination of one's own J-10 and J-11.

The J-10 fighter plane was manufactured by Qin Guan’s equipment exchanged from later generations as a sample. This equipment has undergone the baptism of the Peace Model Project in that time and space, has experienced Western concepts, and is completely based on the Western learning. It was built according to the standards reached. As for the J-11, this was originally a purely Western fighter plane, not to mention it was manufactured in the 1960s and 1970s, but the concept is absolutely advanced.

Now, the existing three-generation machines in Han have formed a complete Western standard system, and then go to bear the standards of the country? It definitely wouldn't do this.

"Our navy does not have this interest." After General Lin spoke, the navy officers also spoke up. Compared with the air force, the navy values ​​life and other factors. If you go to sea and operate aircraft in that complicated environment, That is quite complicated. Naturally, the less logistical needs, the better, or the engine, which is replaced every three hundred hours and every one thousand hours, the number of backup engines that need to be stocked on the aircraft carrier is definitely different. Yeah.

Besides, this Su-27 has not yet completed the transformation of carrier-based aircraft. Therefore, for the navy, there is nothing to consider. If they abandon the ready-made carrier-based aircraft J-11 and choose Su-27, The brain is definitely flooded. If you want to improve the Su-27 into a carrier-based aircraft, you don't know how much weight you have to gain.

At this meeting, if it is this topic, there is no need for discussion at all! This is just wishful thinking of Mr. Gu.

If you import Su-27 without authorization, it will seriously disrupt the existing domestic Eagle Country standard logistics maintenance system. Not only will you need to re-purchase a set of Bear fighter's logistics maintenance line, but also retrain the logistics technicians. The two sets are different. The logistics maintenance system will not only cause huge waste, but also bring huge hidden dangers to troop training, support and even wartime operations!

Think about it, once a war breaks out, the Su-27, which is different from the existing system, can only use specially imported bear country ammunition and rechargeable vehicles, and cannot use the equipment of the existing system. This is definitely a tragedy.

For details, you can refer to the typical Air Force of the White Elephant Country. At the same time, it is equipped with the MiG-29 of the Xiong Country, the Su-30MKI, the Phantom 2000H of the Chicken Country, and the Rafale. It is the interface of the ground electric vehicle used by the aircraft that cannot be used universally, which makes their aircrew almost crazy. It is said that the standard of their self-developed LCA fighter aircraft is different, and the equipment of the World brand.

The crash rate of the fighters of the Baixiang Air Force is quite high, and there are definitely factors in this aspect.

"President Qin, what's your opinion?"

Finally, I asked Qin Guan’s opinion. Qin Guan is a heavyweight. Of course, he didn’t speak until the end. After all, most of the current equipment in the Han country was produced by Qin Guan. When asked about Qin Guan’s When making comments, everyone looked at Qin Guan.

"Su-27 fighters, there are some things that are worth learning." Qin Guan said: "For example, the idea of ​​its helmet sight is very good. It is also very mobile, and it can make all kinds of things that make us difficult. Imagined action, but if we want this kind of aircraft to equip our aviation forces, I think it is inappropriate."

Like the MiG-29, the helmet sights and infrared combat missiles equipped on these three-generation Xiong’s advanced aircraft are still good. At the same time, the fighters designed with the lifting body are very mobile. You can learn these, but , It is unnecessary to talk about importing the whole machine.

After speaking, Qin Guan looked at Mr. Gu again: "Our 6601 has a long history and many achievements. However, in recent years, it has clearly fallen behind. Although the 6601 does not have a major fighter jet project, it is for us. Said that it is still very important. Our battle at sea once again shows that there is a great demand for vertical take-off and landing fighters. I am looking forward to our 6601 Institute, based on the cooperation with the bear country, will soon put ourselves As for other projects, wait until the VTOL fighter is developed."

Don't mess around, just do what you should do! Your horizons are too low. Now, China has begun to engage in fourth-generation aircraft. If you propose your own fourth-generation aircraft project, maybe I will support it. Now this is really unnecessary, and it is a repetitive waste. That's it.