Chapter 422 Sibei is very important

 Qin Tao is sincere.

After all, for him, a celebratory dinner didn't cost much at all. However, after tricking these old men here, they haven't been there much. Now that they are here this time, of course he wants to have a few drinks with them.

The technical staff here are also very hard-working. In the past few years, they worked hard to sort out the manuscript papers. In recent years, they have started to work on this prototype. Now that they have finally succeeded, of course they have to celebrate.

 It was already past five o'clock when we arrived at the largest restaurant nearby, and all kinds of fine wines and delicacies were served non-stop.

"Mr. Qin, I want to toast you a glass of wine." A man came up with a wine glass. Qin Tao immediately raised the glass: "I want to toast you. Without the help of your 430 factory, the turbine part of this gas turbine would not be so fast. Just produce it.”

The person in front of him was the expert from Factory 430. At this time, with a smile on his face: "Mr. Qin, many of our domestic companies have cooperated with Mingzhou Group, but we are the only one who works indirectly through 703 Institute." I have established a relationship with you, and I wonder if there are any projects that we can bring along!"

Qin Tao glanced at the other party: "You have many projects of your own, for example, replicating the Spey engine. You need to continue to work **** research and development now."

After the introduction of Spey, it was originally going to be handed over to Factory 410. However, this largest and most advanced aero-engine factory in the country was working on turbofan VI. In order to avoid the impact of Spey, it was transferred to Factory 430. .

Needless to say the story at that time. In short, although the technology was purchased, it was gathering dust in the warehouse. Later, Feibao had no engine, so it had to use the Sibei in stock, and even went to the British to buy a batch of second-hand ones. of the engine.

Now, since the other party has brought it up, Qin Tao will of course discuss it with them.

"Spey engine? Is that second-generation aircraft still useful? We originally planned to build an aeroderivative aircraft, but now it seems there is no future."

The person in front of me was a little discouraged.

“Don’t forget, the Navy is developing a Flying Leopard fighter-bomber. This aircraft requires two engines. In the future, we will need a large number of Spey engines.”

“There is still a lot of stock in the warehouse, which is enough for a while.”

 “What happens next?”

Qin Tao looked at the people in front of him: "You can't say that we will discuss the future matters later. We will need more aircraft in the future. Are we going to let our Flying Leopard park in the factory without an engine?"

 Qin Tao's volume increased slightly, so people nearby heard it and looked over.

Wu Shengli came over holding a wine glass: "What are you talking about? Are you so involved?"

"Leader Wu, Mr. Qin is talking about the Sibei engine." The technician said: "This engine was once our key project, and it will also be related to the use of our Flying Leopard in the future. I don't know if the Navy will purchase it. How many Flying Leopards?”

"Our country is poor. Even if we produce the Su-27 ourselves, the number will not be too many. Although the Flying Leopard does not look very advanced, with its fuel-efficient engine, it can fly to the southern seas and back again. This It is the type of aircraft we currently lack the most." Wu Shengli said: "I can't guarantee the specific number of aircraft we will need, but we must be able to produce the engines of this aircraft so that we will not be controlled by others!"

"With the development of aviation technology, the gap between aircraft bodies will become smaller and smaller." Qin Tao said at the side: "Our Flying Leopard fighter-bomber, even if it is a second-generation aircraft body, can continue to improve its avionics. In this way, the performance can be improved, its cost is cheap, and the demand will be huge in the future. It will not only be used by the navy, but also by the air force in the future. Not to mention more, there are still hundreds of aircraft. "

Hundreds of aircraft, then two hundred engines are needed! If backup engines are included, the number required will be even greater.

Of course, this is what Qin Tao said. In fact, nearly 300 JH-7s have been equipped one after another. Of course, no one believes this data now.

“The country spent precious foreign exchange at the beginning, so we can’t let it go to waste. In the future, after you can achieve 100% localization, we can not only use this engine for ourselves, but maybe we can also sell it.”

"sell away?"

"Yes, there are still so many old aircraft in the world, and many of them are using Spey engines. After the British closed the production lines, those customers who want to replace their engines can only buy ours." Qin Tao said: "The total output of this kind of engine can be at least 500 units."

There is no need to do anything else, there is no need to occupy the bowl and watch the pot. For their 430 factory, they have to finish the localization of the Spey engine!

 “Do you need more than 500 such backward engines?” The other party was surprised.

"That's right, if you don't believe it, we can sign an agreement. As long as you can complete 100% localization, and if there is no place for the production, you can sell it to our Mingzhou Group."

The other party shook his head: "Mr. Qin, we don't need to sign an agreement. We trust your judgment. When I go back, I will bring your words to the factory leaders. However, this imitation project has been stopped. If it is started again, a lot of investment will be needed." funds.”

 Everything else is secondary, money is the important thing!

 How to solve the money problem?

Qin Tao looked at Wu Shengli who came over to join in the fun: "Currently, the Flying Leopard fighter-bomber is still being developed for the Navy, so of course the engine for this fighter must be invested by the Navy."

Wu Shengli's expression changed instantly, "You boy, I came to rescue you, but you came to my general instead?"

 Do you know how much it will cost to continue localization? At least it’s several hundred million!

 Where to get so much money?

If the Navy has money, it might as well buy a batch of Su-30s quickly.

"If our navy does not have funds, there can be an alternative plan. For example, our Mingzhou Group will invest in subsequent research and development funds. However, in this case, when Factory 430 will provide the military with Spey engines in large quantities in the future, , we also want to share part of the profits.”

This is just what Qin Tao said. After all, the research and development of this kind of engine has been a national key project from the beginning, and the country has also invested a large amount of funds. It is inappropriate for the Mingzhou Group to come in and invest. Qin Tao's words could be beautiful enough, but Wu Shengli had no other choice.

“Let’s find a way and report to our superiors.” Wu Shengli said: “The imitation of this engine must be carried out, and it must eventually be improved to 100% localization.”

"Yes, I will convey your instructions to the superiors."

The technician left, and Wu Shengli looked at Qin Tao: "Are you trying to bully us?"

"I don't mean that." Qin Tao shook his head: "In any case, the localization of Sibei must continue. Now our domestic engine research and development is in full swing. It is a good opportunity for their 430 factory. , they can avoid a lot of detours, and our navy definitely needs Spey engines, so we have to tighten our belts and get this project started."

"You said it simply, but I really want to find an opportunity to bring you in and ask you to provide funds." After Wu Shengli said this, he remembered something again: "You don't want to prevent them from obtaining gas turbine technology. Let them get involved in gas turbine production?”

 The QC280 of later generations was produced by the 430 factory, so if they do it, they will definitely achieve results. However, Qin Tao is opposed to it now.

"Yeah, they only need to produce the turbine part. If they get the full set of drawings, they will definitely try to digest and absorb them, which will waste time and energy. For them, they need to finish Sibei first, otherwise Feibao will do it in the future. Without the engine, there will be big problems."

 Actually, there are more, which Qin Tao did not say.

Gas turbines will not only be used on warships, but also on the ground, becoming the power system of many equipment. It is good for a hundred schools of thought to contend, but given the current domestic foundation, it is not easy to gather all the strength to develop one, let alone Talk about competition.

 Qin Tao does not want to cause internal friction in the competition, and he also believes that 703 Institute will not let them down.

Wu Shengli nodded.

“Today I saw our gas turbine ignited, which finally solved a heart disease problem.” Wu Shengli brought his thoughts back: “Even if the speed is lower, we at least have an advanced gas turbine.”

“Yes, various subsystems are constantly developing. In a few years, after various supporting projects are completed, our destroyers will be able to lay dumplings.” Qin Tao also expressed emotion.

Since arriving here, Qin Tao has been busy. After working for so long, he finally saw the results. The power problem of domestic warships has been solved, and he can build as many as he wants in the future.

 “Thank you.” Wu Shengli sighed with emotion.

  The second-generation gas turbine initially purchased solved the power problems of the 115 and 116. Now the gas turbines are gradually maturing, and there is no need to worry about future warships. All of this is the result of Qin Tao's promotion.

“Thank you very much. Please give our Mingzhou Group an order for a few more warships.”

“You kid, that’s a pretty idea. The navy’s main destroyer must be decided through competitive bidding. You, the Mingzhou Group, can make preparations first and design these two different types of destroyers.”

Qin Tao nodded: "We have been designing it for a long time."

“What you will face will be more powerful competitors.” Wu Shengli said: “And you should also know that you can’t put all your eggs in one basket.”

 There are so many shipyards in the country, and all warships cannot be built for the Mingzhou Group! Although Wu Shengli was upright and not afraid of slanting shadows, there were still gossips behind his back.

Qin Tao smiled: "There are many capable people. If the navy doesn't place an order for us, then we will build foreign trade warships. The ones we build will be more advanced than those we use domestically. Let's see who gets slapped in the face."

"You are quite confident, kid." Wu Shengli also smiled: "Since we are in Northeast China, should we go and see the Su-27 production line?"

Qin Tao instinctively wanted to shake his head. After all, the Su-27 production line has been producing fighter jets for the Air Force and has not yet been used by the Navy. However, after all, he proposed the Su-30 project. Now that it is here, in the past It's just a matter of course. Besides, Mingzhou Group is also providing titanium alloy components there, so it can be regarded as a cooperative unit.

With this idea in mind, Qin Tao and Wu Shengli came to the 601 Institute and the 112 Factory. However, after arriving, he understood the purpose of Wu Shengli's coming here.

Wu Shengli came not to see those Su-27 fighter jets, but to see the modification of this fighter jet, which was the replica of the prototype of the carrier-based aircraft that Qin Tao brought back!

On the production line of Factory 112, many old people appeared. This scene is somewhat similar to decades ago. At that time, in order to help China develop its aviation industry, many old people also came here and were busy on the production line together.

The same is true now, everyone seems to have returned to the old and intimate era.

“Currently we are mainly producing airframes, plus other parts imported from Lao Maozi.” Mr. Gu, who has retired, heard that Qin Tao and the others were coming, so he came to receive them. At this time, Mr. Gu was in good spirits.

"Among them, the raw materials for many titanium alloy parts of the aircraft body come from the Mingzhou Group, which saves us a lot of procurement funds." Mr. Gu said as he walked: "In this way, the J-11 fighter jets we produce ourselves are more efficient than direct Importing can save more than 10 million US dollars.”

 Qin Tao and Wu Shengli both frowned.

“Lao Gu, our own production costs currently still require more than 30 million?” Wu Shengli asked.

"Yes, except for the body, which is produced by us, all other parts are imported from Lao Maozi, including engines, telex systems, weapon systems, etc." Mr. Gu said: "So, we are currently It can save more than ten million US dollars, which is already a very good figure.”

"Yes, this is just the first step after all." Qin Tao also sighed: "However, we must not be satisfied with assembly. We must continue to thoroughly understand its technology during the assembly process and continue to use our domestically produced We will replace it with spare parts. In the future, even if we don’t import Lao Maozi’s spare parts, we will be able to produce this kind of fighter aircraft ourselves.”

Mr. Gu nodded: "Yes, this is also our idea, but at present, this goal still has a long way to go."

 It is easier said than done to replace imported parts with domestically produced parts.

 When you replaced it, did you completely copy it or improve it? Apart from anything else, Lao Maozi's electronic technology is backward. Even the electronic system used on domestic J-82 fighters is more advanced than that of the Su-27.

(This is not bragging. During a certain mission, when the Su-27 went up, the radar was interfered with and there was a snowflake. However, the J-82 went up fine, and the radar could still detect the target steadily.)

 If you completely imitate it, the performance will still lag behind. If you use your own improved product, will there be any problems during the replacement process?

For example, if you replace it with a domestic radar, it will be much lighter than the original radar with the inverted antenna. What should you do with the lighter weight? Do you want a cement weight block?

In terms of engines, this is even more true. Although the appearance and performance of the domestically produced turbofans are similar to those of the third uncle, it will take many years for domestically produced engines to mature. Do you dare to replace them now?

“Currently, Lao Li is in charge of this project. Their task is to master the equipment technology of the Su-27 fighter aircraft. Understanding the principles of the Su-27 is our next task. Only by understanding it thoroughly can we improve.”

After the Su-27 was introduced, there were many project leaders. As for its first chief engineer, it was the famous Li Ming. In the 601 Institute, he was second only to Mr. Gu.

Sun Chong, who is now in his thirties, only works for Li Ming.

“How is the progress of our navy project?” Wu Shengli finally asked after walking around the production line.

"Our research institute has specially organized a capable team to map and imitate the two T-10Ks. The person in charge, Luo Yang, is also a top student in our new third class." Mr. Gu said: "I will take you to see it."

At first, Qin Tao brought back two T-10K prototypes from the Nitka base, the No. 3 and No. 7 prototypes, as well as some landing gear and other accessories. After the two prototypes came back, they were soon For a long time, I ate dust in the navy's hangar.

 It was not until the introduction of the Su-27 production line that the two prototypes were towed to the 601 Institute, where experts began mapping and copying work.

For the Navy, this is forward-looking. After all, seeing that the Varyag is getting closer day by day, the carrier-based aircraft project must also be launched in full swing. We cannot wait until the Varyag is renovated, and the carrier-based aircraft will still be available. There is no shadow, so we can only rely on helicopters to take the lead.

However, since they have just mastered the production of the Su-27 airframe, it is still quite difficult for experts from the 601 Institute to copy this carrier-based aircraft.

 In an inconspicuous small building in No. 601, Qin Tao once again saw the prototype that he had brought back a few years ago.

One of them is still intact, while the other one was completely dismantled.

This is also the advantage of having two prototypes. What if there is only one prototype and it cannot be assembled after being dismantled?

"Luo Gong, Luo Gong!" Mr. Gu shouted to the people who were busy inside.

Luo Yang was born in 1961. In 1978, the second year after the college entrance examination was resumed, 17-year-old Luo Yang was admitted to the aircraft design department of Capital Aviation University. The class was full of people, and even the older ones were Luo Yang. Twice his age.

Among these people, Luo Yang studied tirelessly and even spent New Year's Eve in the study room.

Relying on this motivation, Luo Yang achieved excellent results. After graduation, he was admitted to Institute 601, and as soon as he entered, he joined the R&D team. It was the era when the J-82 was in full swing, and Luo Yang's The first task was just to develop the canopy, but he worked on it for several months.

In the design office, Luo Yang kept making progress. When the Su-27 production line was introduced, he originally followed Li Ming and Sun Chong to work on the Su-27 technology. However, when he received the new appointment, he immediately I obeyed the decision and have been working on the T-10K prototype for more than a year.

He is in his thirties and is in the golden age of a person, with drive and energy. At this time, except for the bloodshot eyes, his whole person is still full of vitality.

"Mr. Gu, what's the matter?" Luo Yang ran over and asked.

“Here, I’ll introduce you to a few people.” Mr. Gu said, pointing to Wu Shengli beside him: “This is Leader Wu. He arranged your current project.”

 “Hello, Leader Wu.” Luo Yang shook hands with Wu Shengli enthusiastically.

“This is Mr. Qin of the Mingzhou Group. He got these two T-10K prototypes.”

 Mr. Qin of Mingzhou Group?

Luo Yang was a little surprised. When he first saw Qin Tao, because he was too young, he just thought Qin Tao was Wu Shengli's secretary or something like that. Unexpectedly, he turned out to be the famous Mr. Qin!

  Qin Tao is younger than Luo Yang, but he has quite a lot of deeds. When it comes to Mingzhou Group, everyone has to give a thumbs up and admire it. After all, Mingzhou Group is now basically the leader of private enterprises.

 For Luo Yang, of course, the two prototypes are what he admires the most. Under the current circumstances, this project is kept secret and no one outside knows about it. Mr. Qin must have done more than one similar thing.

“Luo Gong, thank you for your hard work.” Qin Tao stretched out his hand.

Luo Yang finally recovered from his surprise and held Qin Tao's hand.

“Mr. Qin, you have single-handedly promoted the development of the J-31A project. We all thought that you would fully support the project there. Unexpectedly, you still value this aircraft.”

"The future of the Navy will definitely be the J-31A." Qin Tao said very straightforwardly: "However, the research and development of that kind of aircraft is very difficult. It will not be available in three to five years, and it will not even be available in ten or eight years. There is no hope. For our navy, the most practical thing at present is the modification of the Su-27."

Hearing what Qin Tao said, Luo Yang was both excited and embarrassed: "Mr. Qin, we have dismantled one of the aircraft. After our disassembly, we found that the technical difficulty of this aircraft is far greater than that of the Su-27." superior."

“Is it because it has an extra pair of duck wings?” Wu Shengli asked curiously.

From an appearance perspective, the Su-33, which is the service model of the T-10K, has an extra pair of canards compared to the Su-27, but this is only superficial.

"Lao Maozi's aircraft carrier uses a ski-jump take-off, so in order to increase the take-off performance, they specially added this pair of canards, but its changes are definitely more than that." Luo Yang said: "It can be said that its technology is more advanced than The Su-27 has gained half a generation."

 Different canards have different functions.

 This can be seen in the canards of several famous aircraft in the world.

For example, take the Rafale fighter jet. The French have completely destroyed the delta-wing aircraft. In the Mirage 2000-5, they added a small fixed canard in front of the delta wing. Its function is to provide vortex.

 Vortex is a product of the development of aerodynamics, which can greatly increase the lift of an aircraft.

 Look at the Typhoon developed by four European countries. The distance between the canards and the main wings of this fighter aircraft is too far, and there is basically no vortex effect. The canards are mainly used to control the aircraft, which is equivalent to an additional aerodynamic rudder surface.

These two types are called close-range coupling and long-range coupling respectively. The domestic J-10 combines these advantages and disadvantages. The distance is neither far nor close, and it is an original medium-range coupling.

The Su-27 does not have canards. This kind of fighter with large slats and fused wings is already very beautiful, but on the Su-33, canards appeared, and then transitioned to the Su-35 and Su-37. . (There are two types of Su-35 in history. The one we purchased is already a later one and does not have canards. However, the test prototype Su-35 in the 1980s and 1990s did have canards.)

 (End of this chapter)