Chapter 581 Conversation at the New Year’s Eve Dinner Table

 On New Year's Eve, in the small courtyard of Huilou, at the New Year's Eve dinner table.

"I heard that Asan's people went to Damao. Nothing was done. Compensation was impossible. They wanted to purchase aircraft carrier deck steel. As for the Mikoyan Design Bureau, they took Asan to Zhukovsky. I walked around and looked at the rolling test of the MiG 1.44, and then I fooled people away."

Wu Shengli was talking to Qin Tao while eating.

"MiG 1.44, you must not do it." Qin Tao was slightly worried.

Asan has purchased a large number of MiG-29K carrier-based aircraft, and the Mikoyan Design Bureau has slowed down. If they invest a large amount of money to complete the test flight of the MiG 1.44, they may really be able to come back to life!

 A dead Da Mao is a good Da Mao, and a dead Mikoyan Design Bureau is a good design bureau!

If Mikoyan Design Bureau comes back to life through this project, it will continue to shine in the research and development of military aircraft in the future! Compared with the Sukhoi Design Bureau, which defeated the Su-27 and regarded it as a new generation fighter, it is obvious that the potential of the Mikoyan Design Bureau is even greater!

Since the collapse of the Red Empire, the Sukhoi Design Bureau has been resting on its laurels, while the Mikoyan Design Bureau may continue to forge ahead.

 So, we must not give Mikoyan Design Bureau a chance to breathe by some mistake!

"Of course we don't want strong air power to continue to appear in the north." Wu Shengli said to Qin Tao: "If you have any clever ideas, just tell Lao Lin. Lao Lin will definitely be grateful to you, and things will be better last time. Let go."

“Of course we have a clever trick, and there is more than one.” Qin Tao said: “But, Dad, based on what you just said, I think it won’t be long before Da Mao comes to find me.”

 Da Mao is looking for you? Wu Shengli suddenly reacted: "Aircraft carrier deck steel?"

Kumar went to Red Star Shipyard and the price was US$50,000 per ton. When he went to Magang, the price doubled. This means that if Red Star Shipyard goes to Magang to order deck steel, it will definitely have to pay a high price. .

 So, it is better to continue ordering from Mingzhou Group!

"Two thousand tons of deck steel, even if you sell it for 30,000 US dollars per ton, that's still 60 million US dollars. You can earn at least 50 million US dollars from this business." Wu Shengli said to Qin Tao with a smile: " It looks like you’re going to make another fortune.”

Qin Tao shook his head: "For us, this small amount of money is not worth it. However, the group still lacks money in many places. If the other party wants to order, then we really have to export. Unfortunately, we can't do it this time. It’s so obvious.”

Last time, low-grade civilian steel was used to pretend to be deck steel. Next, if Ah San continues to order, he will not be able to do this. The other party is not stupid. The purchased steel must be tested. If the indicators are found to be insufficient, That would cause trouble.

"Even if we don't export, Ah San still has to purchase deck steel from Maanshan Iron and Steel. Therefore, we can't stop Ah San's plan to build an aircraft carrier. The most we can do is delay the delivery time, and only deliver one or two hundred tons every year, so that Ah San can The construction of the aircraft carrier project has seriously delayed the time." Qin Tao said.

Wu Shengli nodded: "That's it. You are in business, and we can't interfere too much. You have already made a great contribution by delaying Asan's Super Sun King aircraft carrier until now and unable to operate normally."

“Lao Wu, is Lao Wu at home?” At this moment, a voice came from outside.

"Say Cao Cao, Cao Cao will be here soon. This New Year's Eve guy actually didn't eat at his own house, but came to my place." Wu Shengli stood up with a smile and went to greet him, and Mr. Lin opened the door and came in.

“Hey, Taozi is here too. Didn’t you go to Mingzhou to celebrate the New Year?” Mr. Lin said with a smile when he saw Qin Tao here.

"We have agreed that we will live as a family for one year." Qin Tao said: "Mr. Lin, you are here on New Year's Eve, you are probably not here to eat or drink, right?"

“Why not? I also brought a bottle of Maotai, full of it!”

Qin Tao quickly opened the lid of the Maotai brought by Mr. Lin and poured the wine. Mr. Lin looked at Qin Tao with a smile: "Taozi, you know everything about Ah San going to Lao Maozi's place, right?"

“Well, I just heard about it.” Qin Tao laughed secretly in his heart. Mr. Lin came here. It was obviously just for this matter. He was too embarrassed to say it clearly just now!

"If Asan purchases a fighter aircraft like the MiG 1.44, we will be in big trouble in the future!" Mr. Lin said: "How can they deserve to have fourth-generation aircraft?"

“Mr. Lin, there are people who are more worried than us.”

 Mr. Lin's eyes suddenly lit up: "Sukhoi Design Bureau?"

“Yes, Ah San’s funds are limited after all. If they put funds on the MiG 1.44, it is likely to interfere with the progress of the Su-30MKI project and even lead to the termination of the project.”

Before the collapse of the Red Empire, the Homeland Defense Force had already equipped hundreds of Su-27s, as well as a certain two-seat Su-27UB. This aircraft was originally used to train pilots, but in actual operations , but a strange phenomenon occurred: pilots prefer to use this kind of aircraft to perform patrol missions!

The two-seater aircraft will reduce the fuel capacity and range. This shortcoming does not matter to the Su-27 fighter, which has a long range. On the contrary, the two-seater has two pilots, making it more convenient to perform the task, regardless of Whether it is cruising or flying in a four-plane formation, it will be easier to have a two-seater with a commander sitting behind it.

 So, the Sukhoi Design Bureau made a decision. Since the troops like it so much, they might as well change the two-seat trainer aircraft into a fighter-bomber!

 But, just when we were about to start, the Red Empire was gone! At that time, the Sukhoi Design Bureau had not yet sold the Su-27 to the world, and there was no extra money to improve it. Therefore, when Dongfang began to purchase the Su-27Sk, Lao Maozi issued an invitation to jointly develop the Su-30. !

 However, Dongfang didn’t have any money, and the technical risks were too great, so we gave up.

 After a few years, Lao Maozi finally got rich, and the two-seater model was improved, and it was only in history that Dongfang placed an order.

Ah San was tempted. Seeing that Dongfang had the long-range Su-27 series, of course they couldn't wait to have this more advanced fighter jet, and it had to be more advanced than Dongfang's!

  Last November, Asan and Damao signed a purchase contract for forty Su-30MKIs worth US$1.5 billion. The first Su-30MKI will be delivered to Asan after the new millennium. (There is also talk of buying 50 aircraft for 1.8 billion.)

The reason why it is so slow is of course because Asan has very high requirements. This Su-30MKI is not a simple two-seat modification of the Su-27UB. It applies a lot of new technologies, such as canards and vector nozzles. It was transplanted from the Su-37 numbered 711.

At the same time, Ah San is not confident about Damao’s avionics. Therefore, the avionics system of this fighter needs to use French and Israeli products. In this way, the Su-30MKI becomes an international cooperation project.

Of course, such a project will be very slow. The project has only been carried out for a few months now. Due to the Super Sun King incident, Asan is very cautious in its investment. Currently, it has only allocated tens of millions of initial R&D funds.

Although the MiG 1.44 is an air superiority fighter and has a different combat mission from a fighter-bomber like the Su-30, Ah San would not consider so much when doing things, in case he fell in love with the MiG 1.44. , gave up the Su-30MKI project?

 So, Sukhoi Design Bureau will definitely be very anxious!

"Now, this aircraft is being tested in Zhukovsky, and the forward-swept wing demonstrator S-37 Golden Eagle of the Sukhoi Design Bureau is also being tested at the Flight Test Institute. Therefore, they still have a way, and there is nothing else to do, even if it is just Even if you do some tricks in the fuel, you can also burn that MiG 1.44." Qin Tao said with a smile: "With the current strength of the Mikoyan Design Bureau, as long as the prototype is gone, they will not be able to build another one. "

This prototype was built in the Red Empire era. If you want to rebuild it now, many supporting parts cannot be produced, such as the two abnormal AL-41F engines.

The fourth uncle is much more powerful than the third uncle. This engine has a thrust-to-weight ratio of 11 and a maximum afterburning thrust of 175 N. It is said that such an advanced engine should continue to be used, but in the end it disappeared.

The S-37 Golden Eagle currently undergoing test flights uses two D-30 engines. The thrust is only large enough, but the thrust-to-weight ratio is pitifully low.

Even in later generations, Lao Maozi's new generation Su-57 fighter jet also uses the AL-41F1-117S jet engine. It is also the fourth uncle, but the thrust of a single engine is only 15 tons, compared to the fourth uncle on the MiG 1.44. Far from it, because it is actually just a modified version of the third uncle's model.

 The fourth uncle used on the MiG 1.44 was already the last song of the Red Empire. I don’t know whether it was due to immature design or technical problems of the workers. In short, it never appeared again.

(There is also a saying that there is no need for such a large thrust. The Hero of East China is skeptical about this statement. Which aircraft designer despises the thrust of his own engine? The maximum take-off weight of the Su-57 is 35 tons. If this old For the fourth uncle of the model, the thrust-to-weight ratio of the whole machine just reaches 1! It is much better than what is used now.)

A few people were chatting and laughing, but the content of the conversation was not suitable for children. Although they did not kill anyone, they just set fire, which was despicable enough.

 Lao Lin nodded: "Yes, your plan is very good, but how should we inform Lao Maozi about this method?"

"This is your business, don't come to trouble me." Qin Tao said, "Okay, let's move on to the next topic."

Next?

"Zhang Zhong said that the program can be dedicated to a MiG 1.44 program. Anyway, the aircraft has to be publicly displayed to the audience. This is not considered a leak. In this program, we can belittle it and put this kind of The plane said nothing."

 Using the media is a common method used by Qin Tao. Zhang Zhong has done many things for Qin Tao, and he can criticize anyone he wants.

"Why is it useless? That was the last song of the Red Empire." Mr. Lin was a little curious.

"Yes, it is the product of Lao Maozi's fight against the F-22, but look at its appearance. Does it have any shadow of a stealth aircraft?" Qin Tao turned on the mocking mode: "It doesn't have any aerodynamic shape at all. The stealth correction completely leaves the stealth task to the so-called plasma generator. However, I guess this project must have become obsolete. A fighter without stealth capabilities dares to call itself the world's second heavy-duty fourth-generation aircraft? "

"It is the first Lao Maozi fighter aircraft to use an abdominal air inlet, which greatly improves the performance at large elevation angles. However, at the same time, the air inlet is not blocked, and the radar reflection of the engine fan blades is also very strong. The radar of this aircraft There won't be any difference between the Echo and the third-generation machine, so if I really want to call it a fourth-generation machine, then go back and resurface it."

“Also, its belly bomb bay can only carry four missiles, and it doesn’t even have side bomb bays. In a fierce air battle, what are four missiles enough for?”

Hearing the previous content, Mr. Lin nodded frequently, but when he heard the last words, Mr. Lin became curious: "How do you know that its belly bomb bay can only hold four missiles?"

 Everything else is understandable, but the last one has never been announced to the public at all.

 Of course it is the knowledge of future generations! But Qin Tao wasn't nervous either: "Listen to what Mao and the others said in fragments."

Although Mao Suanzhang is from the Yakovlev Design Bureau, they must have participated in the bidding for this kind of fighter. They have some understanding of the performance of this kind of fighter. It is also clear how many missiles can be hung in the built-in bomb bay.

 So, Qin Tao’s explanation did not arouse any doubts.

“Yes, this aircraft has many technical flaws and is not a complete fourth-generation aircraft at all.” Mr. Lin said: “We can make a fuss about this aspect.”

 It doesn’t matter if you throw dirty water on Mikoyan Design Bureau. Anyway, there is no intersection with Mikoyan Design Bureau in China, and what they say is fair and reasonable, and there is no private goods involved.

“Speaking of which, this MiG 1.44 is somewhat similar to the dual-issue large version of our J-10.” Mr. Lin suddenly sighed with emotion.

"Of course." Qin Tao said: "Mr. Lin, the J-10 will be finalized and put into service soon. After the research and development of this fighter is completed, the 611 Research Institute should develop a dual-issue large version of the J-10 as our first A stealthy fourth-generation heavy fighter."

 The sky of the future belongs to stealth aircraft, and there must be J-20s in China!

Since he mentioned this matter, Qin Tao mentioned a few words casually.

"Well, we think so too, but Taozi, this doesn't suit your style. Why don't you fool us into building a dual-issue large version based on the J-31A as our fourth-generation heavy-duty aircraft? ? This corresponds exactly to the F-22."

"Because our engine is not powerful." Qin Tao lamented: "Even if our turbofan-15 can be stably produced, it is still far behind the engine of the fourth-generation aircraft. If the power is insufficient, it can only be pneumatic." Come to think of it, the duck layout is the most suitable choice for us."

The Americans have always played a conventional layout because their engines are so powerful that bricks can fly into the sky. However, we have always been limited by the flaws of the engines and can only make a fuss about aerodynamics.

"You mean, you can rely on 611?" Mr. Lin asked Qin Tao.

Qin Tao nodded: "Yes, the model for domestic independent research and development of military aircraft is the 611th Institute! If the Air Force doesn't count on the 611th Institute, who else can it count on? The 601st Institute?"

"In fact, both design institutes have already reported relevant research and development plans." Mr. Lin said: "The plan designed by 611 Institute is a double-engine heavy air superiority fighter with a canard layout, while the design plan of 601 Institute is Slap the Su-27 flat."

 At the last air show, Qin Tao suggested this. It seems that the 601 Institute was anxious and actually came up with this plan!

“Both fighters have chosen our WS-15 as their engines. Even if they do not have supersonic cruise capabilities, at least their maneuverability is guaranteed. We are currently in a dilemma as we don’t know which one is more suitable.”

Hearing what Mr. Lin said, Qin Tao smiled: "Mr. Lin, one is a veteran who has been working on the J-8 fighter for decades, and the other is a rising star who has built a third-generation fighter. How do you choose? Do you need to say? You are here Why are you hesitating? Can’t you see who is stronger? It has been six or seven years since the Su-27 was equipped. You can ask, have the relevant units understood the design of the Su-27? You can use our domestic aviation Did you replace it with the Su-27 and repair the weak areas of the body in a targeted manner?"

Hearing what Qin Tao said, Mr. Lin sighed: "Yes, this is really a problem. The current advice they give is that they hope that our Air Force can purchase a batch of Su-30s, or even more advanced Su-35s. To master the upgrade technology of the Su-27 series fighters."

Relying on funds from exporting the Su-27, the Sukhoi Design Bureau is also improving the Su-30. The life span of the Su-27 has been increased from 2,500 hours to 6,000 hours, and the previous rickets have disappeared. These are all It is the advancement of Sukhoi fighter jets.

 However, it is still difficult for domestic masters to master it. The best way is to purchase a batch so that they can directly compare and see the difference between the two fighters.

“Let’s talk about the Su-27’s plan to defeat the enemy. This plan was made by me to fool Lao Maozi. This design simply cannot achieve the best stealth capability.”

Mr. Lin was stunned: "What's going on?"

"Of course, it is due to the limitations of the innate structure. The Su-27 series fighters adopt a short engine nacelle solution, with air intake in the belly, and the overall shape is relatively smooth. However, this shape will bring huge consequences in the era of stealth aircraft. The problem is, if major changes are not made, the engine fan blades will be visible directly from the air inlet, and this strong electromagnetic reflection source cannot be blocked at all."

Mr. Lin thought about it seriously, and then said: "Is your suggestion that was rejected originally meant to deceive others?"

Qin Tao smiled and nodded.

"I understand. For now, 601 is still trying its best to thoroughly understand the design of the Su-27. It is more appropriate to develop our fighter-bombers on this basis. The project of developing fourth-generation aircraft should be left to 611."

“Mr. Lin, this is your Air Force’s decision and has nothing to do with me.” Qin Tao continued. He was a shipbuilder and he didn’t want to get involved too much in this field.

"Yes, I understand." Mr. Lin nodded: "We would like to thank you for your valuable advice. It is true that the authorities are blind and the beholder knows the truth."

"By the way, Mr. Lin, now that I've mentioned it, I have some ideas."

"explain."

"In order to better revitalize our aviation industry, I think it is imperative to merge the 611th Institute and the 132nd Factory." Qin Tao said: "This development into a large aviation group will have a great impact on the development of our aviation industry. It also has great benefits.”

The name Chengdu Aircraft has been called since the 1980s. However, it was just an aircraft company at that time. With the opening of the country, Factory 132 wanted to sell J-7 fighters, but it would not sound good if it was directly called Factory 132, so the superiors The decision was quickly made and the company was named after the place, Chengdu Aircraft Company, and the factory director became the manager. This way, it would be in line with international standards and make it easier to negotiate contracts.

In this era, the 132 Factory and the 611 Institute are independent. All R&D funds of the 611 Institute are allocated by superiors. If there is no project, it will be miserable. Even if there is a project, the allocation is not enough, and even Rumors spread that Mr. Song was selling noodles. In this era, Factory 132 is making a lot of money by exporting J-7 fighters.

However, even if Factory 132 has technology, its technical strength cannot be compared with that of 611. Therefore, for a long time, Factory 132 has been operating and wants to merge what 611 has given into its own. Come to the factory design office.

Institute 611 was not discouraged. They worked **** their internal skills. After developing the J-10 fighter, they finally soared into the sky and became the most famous aircraft design institute in the country. But what about the next production?

  If according to the previous system, the designed aircraft would be handed over to Factory 132 for production. In that case, Factory 611 would have to drink from the northwest wind again. Moreover, it is now a market economy. This J-10 fighter jet is the patent of the 611 Institute. If it is directly handed over to the 132 Factory for production, will the 611 Institute have to be given a certain subsidy for each aircraft produced?

 This operation is too complicated. It is better to merge the two directly and make the 132 Factory a subordinate production factory of the 611 Institute!

Only by combining factories and forming an aircraft group can we develop better.

"For example, the Super 7 project that Factory 132 has been working on can be designed by the 611 Institute." Qin Tao pointed out the advantages of doing so: "It saves Mr. Tu from running around, and the 611 Institute only needs to design the J-10 Just transplant some of the design plans on the fighter plane, and it will be ready for its first flight in a year or two."

“So, what about the production of J-31A fighters?” Mr. Lin asked.

 Qin Tao was a little dumbfounded. He had forgotten that there was an independent J-31A project office! The research and development of this fighter is a small independent building in the 611th Institute. According to the original plan, the production should also be in the 132nd Factory. Now, Qin Tao proposes to merge the two units. Then the J-31A project department should be what to do?

 Would it be better to simply merge them together?

Looking at Qin Tao's hesitant attitude, Mr. Lin said: "Should we merge them together? This will also facilitate production."

"Of course not." Qin Tao immediately denied it: "This project is completely independent, or it is an international cooperation. Mr. Lin, your appearance has become more and more ugly recently."

Mr. Lin smiled and was not angry at Qin Tao's words: "Really? Why don't I feel it? I think this plan is very good! If you don't do this, do you have any suitable suggestions?"

PS: Seeing that you are urging for updates, Heroes of East China is very sorry. My body has not recovered recently. I started coughing again the day before yesterday and I felt dizzy yesterday. Only one update can be maintained for the time being. The Hero of East China is also very anxious to resume the two updates, but unfortunately the energy is limited, so please forgive me.

　　

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